9/26/08 09:02 PM Newsbyte Here we go!
9/26/08 09:02 PM traip-gagnon how many times will we see candidates tie in foreign policy to the economic crisis :)
9/26/08 09:03 PM traip-gagnon I like Jim (first name, as if I know him) as moderator, A) for experience, b) nothing to lose/reports to no one, should make for some really good pointed questions
9/26/08 09:05 PM traip-gagnon anyone else watching on CNN HD? They have this interesting audience reaction box at the bottom with a group of 32 undecided from Ohio....
9/26/08 09:06 PM Newsbyte I like the reaction box
9/26/08 09:07 PM Mrs C I wish - I am CNN on an archaic tube
9/26/08 09:07 PM Newsbyte Greatest fiscal crisis in our time? Agreed?
9/26/08 09:07 PM Coach Stapes I am Tivo-ing CNN and NBC... I am not sure if I like the box... I want to show my students some of this and I don't want them to be too influenced.
9/26/08 09:07 PM Mrs C Agreed
9/26/08 09:08 PM traip-gagnon TIVO the non-HD CNN channel....the reaction box shouldn't be there
9/26/08 09:08 PM traip-gagnon nice work by Lehrer....saying ok, now answer my question :)
9/26/08 09:08 PM Newsbyte They'll negotiate, sure
9/26/08 09:09 PM Coach Stapes Already started recording... Is anyone watching NBC... how does their screen look?
9/26/08 09:09 PM Mrs C Good point. What is the reaction hooked to? Are they reading brainwaves :)
9/26/08 09:09 PM Coach Stapes Has Obama answered if he agrees with the plan or not?
9/26/08 09:10 PM traip-gagnon I can't wait to go to factcheck.org after the debate to see them tackle all of the answers from tonight
9/26/08 09:10 PM traip-gagnon i think its difficult for either of them to answer yay or nay on the plan...no wording yet
9/26/08 09:11 PM Newsbyte yes - not finalized
9/26/08 09:11 PM traip-gagnon mccain called for him to be fired, not resignation....
9/26/08 09:11 PM traip-gagnon it was an interesting line....as the president can't fire that position
9/26/08 09:11 PM Newsbyte Who do you think McCain is saying will be held accountable?
9/26/08 09:11 PM Coach Stapes Didn't McCain say that the economy was sound just days ago... then say we were headed for depression? Should we hold him accountable for his brain farts?
9/26/08 09:12 PM traip-gagnon he had the standard line wo weeks ago....the fundamentals of our economy are strong
9/26/08 09:12 PM Coach Stapes Congress would have to remove him from office correct?
9/26/08 09:12 PM traip-gagnon the head of the FED was who I was referring to
9/26/08 09:12 PM Mrs C They can hardly look at each other
9/26/08 09:13 PM traip-gagnon he has since gone away from that line....they're talking about that now
9/26/08 09:13 PM Newsbyte Was it Paulson who was on his knees begging for the bailout?
9/26/08 09:13 PM traip-gagnon Main Street buzz word for the evening
9/26/08 09:14 PM traip-gagnon ya...well, sort of....he was begging congress not to talk to/worry the american people until a plan was in place
9/26/08 09:14 PM traip-gagnon at least, that was my understanding of being on his knees
9/26/08 09:14 PM Coach Stapes Word of the day...
9/26/08 09:14 PM Newsbyte Nice image, eh?
9/26/08 09:15 PM Newsbyte Earmarking is a gateway drug...
9/26/08 09:15 PM traip-gagnon out of control spending + $700 billion bailout = american dollar worth less than canadian dollar
9/26/08 09:15 PM Coach Stapes Kinda old?
9/26/08 09:16 PM traip-gagnon i was talking to my students, and they were almost unphased by by the 700 billion amount....they said because of the amount of $ we spend in Iraq
9/26/08 09:16 PM Newsbyte citizensagainstgovernmentwaste.com
9/26/08 09:17 PM Newsbyte there's a ticker at nationalprioritiesproject.org that runs the numbers of spending on the war - staggering
9/26/08 09:17 PM Coach Stapes They really like the word Fundamental tonight!
9/26/08 09:17 PM traip-gagnon talking of earmarks....suprised Obama did not mention the road/bridge to nowhere
9/26/08 09:17 PM traip-gagnon citizens website is really good...also use that other one i mentioned earlier, factcheck.org
9/26/08 09:17 PM traip-gagnon both do the same thing....different approach....what are they saying, what is the truth
9/26/08 09:18 PM traip-gagnon ya....it's a good move on his part....if people are watching/go
9/26/08 09:19 PM Mrs C I think that emotions may be running a little high from two days in a room with that merry crew
9/26/08 09:19 PM Coach Stapes Can the President do anything about Congress and their earmarks... Does the Constitution not give Congress the right to set up their own rules and enforce them?
9/26/08 09:19 PM kwalmsley I can't imagine why McCain didn't win Miss Congeniality, maybe he forgot his lipstick.
9/26/08 09:19 PM Newsbyte Yes - and John M. is campaigning against Democrats and Bush - like tying Obama to Bush...
9/26/08 09:20 PM traip-gagnon earmarks are tough....they are typically riders on important bills that congressmen/women aren't going to vote against just because of a rider
9/26/08 09:21 PM Coach Stapes Exactly... so what is the President able to do about it... Veto everything!
9/26/08 09:21 PM traip-gagnon example, hypothetical bill on healthcare for kids someone includes a rider to pay for a bridge to be built in maine....even if you are opposed to the bill, you aren't going to vote against healthcare
9/26/08 09:21 PM Newsbyte it's a way for them to critique their choices - the earmarks
9/26/08 09:21 PM traip-gagnon can't veto everything, would no longer be a threat :)
9/26/08 09:21 PM Newsbyte And their party's choices
9/26/08 09:21 PM Coach Stapes I thought we were going to hear about world issues and foreign policy here tonight!
9/26/08 09:22 PM Newsbyte Not a chance
9/26/08 09:22 PM traip-gagnon this audience reaction on CNN is interesting...i don't think they care about this back and forth, they just want answers
9/26/08 09:22 PM Newsbyte Josh pointed out earlier that a CNN poll was showing that interest in it has waned in light of the economic crisis
9/26/08 09:23 PM Coach Stapes good point by Obama on the buisness tax loop holes
9/26/08 09:23 PM traip-gagnon we'll get to foreign policy....but most americans tuned in to the debate because of economics and didn't realize it was schedule for foreign policy
9/26/08 09:23 PM Mrs C yes - I thought so too
9/26/08 09:23 PM traip-gagnon ya....Iraq is now the #4 most important issue in this election to the people polled
9/26/08 09:23 PM Coach Stapes Tax health benefits... how does that help!
9/26/08 09:23 PM Newsbyte yes on the loopholes - except I want to hear the distinction that it's BIG business who gets the loopholes
9/26/08 09:24 PM traip-gagnon interesting, as the democrat primary focused on Iraq....that wouldn't work at all now
9/26/08 09:24 PM Coach Stapes Economy may be important... but the third debate is focused on domestic
9/26/08 09:24 PM traip-gagnon in fact, if this economic crisis was earlier....i don't think obama would have beat clinton, obama's bread and butter during the primary was Iraq
9/26/08 09:25 PM Mrs C I think he did say "big" didn't he?
9/26/08 09:25 PM Coach Stapes McCain is not making a lot of sense right now...
9/26/08 09:25 PM traip-gagnon lehrer needs to ask a new question....although I like this back and forth :)
9/26/08 09:26 PM traip-gagnon he did say "big"
9/26/08 09:26 PM Newsbyte It's almost like a debate
9/26/08 09:26 PM traip-gagnon great question
9/26/08 09:27 PM Coach Stapes What has to be done... Energy... I agree
9/26/08 09:27 PM traip-gagnon almost...but lincoln/douglas it is not :)
9/26/08 09:27 PM Coach Stapes Health Care... I agree
9/26/08 09:27 PM Newsbyte Kennedy/Nixon?
9/26/08 09:28 PM traip-gagnon kennedy/nixon destorys this....those were/are the best modern debates
9/26/08 09:28 PM Coach Stapes Education.... yes College...
9/26/08 09:28 PM Mrs C McCain is having trouble hiding his disdain
9/26/08 09:28 PM Newsbyte Rebuild infrastructure - oh no - not another big dig
9/26/08 09:28 PM traip-gagnon also the first time we saw image come into play....it was something like 65% identified kennedy as handsome after that debate
9/26/08 09:29 PM traip-gagnon ha....big dig
9/26/08 09:29 PM Newsbyte I'm in Mass!
9/26/08 09:29 PM Coach Stapes Is McCain answering the question?
9/26/08 09:30 PM traip-gagnon dear mccain...no one watching knows what this ship you're talking about is
9/26/08 09:30 PM Newsbyte Yes - re: Kennedy - people who saw them on TV said Kennedy won, those who listened on radio said Nixon won
9/26/08 09:30 PM traip-gagnon oh i know...that's why I laughed about the big dig :)
9/26/08 09:30 PM Newsbyte I'm lost w/ McCain
9/26/08 09:30 PM Newsbyte Go JIM!
9/26/08 09:30 PM Coach Stapes Good follow up
9/26/08 09:31 PM Newsbyte Like What?
9/26/08 09:31 PM Newsbyte says Jim
9/26/08 09:31 PM traip-gagnon needs to hammer McCain with the same "like what" question
9/26/08 09:31 PM traip-gagnon lehrer A+ so far
9/26/08 09:32 PM traip-gagnon nice one-liner on bush by obama
9/26/08 09:32 PM Newsbyte Yes, on both the last two points
9/26/08 09:32 PM traip-gagnon lehrer shuts down mccain :)
9/26/08 09:32 PM Mrs C ooooh - great question
9/26/08 09:32 PM traip-gagnon excuse me senator
9/26/08 09:32 PM traip-gagnon im in charge here....ha ah
9/26/08 09:32 PM Newsbyte LOL
9/26/08 09:33 PM Coach Stapes Seriously consider it...
9/26/08 09:33 PM traip-gagnon spending freeze...big dip in the audience reacton on CNN
9/26/08 09:33 PM Coach Stapes How could you possibly do that.... that would destroy the economy
9/26/08 09:34 PM Mrs C Iraq! Are we turing to the topic of the night?
9/26/08 09:34 PM traip-gagnon i don't know how it would work....i'm also not an economist....i'm just a teacher...and I know what frozen budgets does to me :)
9/26/08 09:34 PM Coach Stapes I thought we were doing a spending freeze a moment ago...
9/26/08 09:34 PM traip-gagnon so if teaching budget=USA budget....frozen budget=screwed
9/26/08 09:34 PM Coach Stapes Drilling would save the economy... right!
9/26/08 09:35 PM Mrs C If there are any students in here please stand up!!??
9/26/08 09:36 PM Coach Stapes any Northwestern MS students here
9/26/08 09:36 PM traip-gagnon any students who are online any of yours? send a message to them? I have 0 students online now
9/26/08 09:36 PM Mrs C Remember TMS, I have the power to give extra credit....;)
9/26/08 09:38 PM Coach Stapes How about a solid example of this spending?
9/26/08 09:38 PM Coach Stapes Go Obama!
9/26/08 09:38 PM traip-gagnon orgy of spending....imagery in our students abound
9/26/08 09:38 PM Coach Stapes Did you see the bounce on the line
9/26/08 09:38 PM Coach Stapes the line is going down
9/26/08 09:38 PM Smitty hi
9/26/08 09:38 PM Smitty maverick!
9/26/08 09:39 PM Newsbyte Hola Smitty :)
9/26/08 09:39 PM Coach Stapes Iraq
9/26/08 09:39 PM Mrs C Hi Smitty
9/26/08 09:39 PM traip-gagnon here is your foreign policy
9/26/08 09:39 PM Newsbyte which one is the maverick tonight?
9/26/08 09:39 PM Smitty what up
9/26/08 09:39 PM traip-gagnon welcome smitty
9/26/08 09:40 PM Coach Stapes I remember him walking in Iraq with bullet proof best on... a mess of Marines around him... Black Hawks over head... and he said.. it is just like main street back home! I wish Obama would raise that
9/26/08 09:41 PM Smitty everything is fundamental tonight
9/26/08 09:41 PM Coach Stapes amen!
9/26/08 09:41 PM traip-gagnon fundamental and its about main street America
9/26/08 09:41 PM Coach Stapes Oh yeah we have a war in Afghanstan too to talk about!
9/26/08 09:41 PM traip-gagnon good catch Smitty
9/26/08 09:42 PM traip-gagnon these numbers are what my students were mentioning when 700billion did not phase them
9/26/08 09:42 PM Coach Stapes One of my students said the other day... that it bothers them that both candidates talk about the troops like they are"its"... or "objects"
9/26/08 09:43 PM traip-gagnon McCain just made a good point about Iraq and the next President
9/26/08 09:44 PM Newsbyte ANother good point by McC re Obama
9/26/08 09:44 PM Newsbyte Senate inside Baseball
9/26/08 09:44 PM Newsbyte That's a new one for me
9/26/08 09:44 PM Coach Stapes Good come back
9/26/08 09:45 PM Coach Stapes Weapons of Mass Distruction
9/26/08 09:45 PM Coach Stapes I remember those
9/26/08 09:45 PM Mrs C up against the ropes
9/26/08 09:46 PM Newsbyte rude: tactic and strategy difference
9/26/08 09:46 PM traip-gagnon funny....my friend in Iraq told me yesterday he does want to come back...odd
9/26/08 09:46 PM traip-gagnon ya...that comment was a little chippy by McCain
9/26/08 09:47 PM Coach Stapes Well put by Obama...
9/26/08 09:47 PM kwalmsley bring the troops home to rest
9/26/08 09:48 PM traip-gagnon obama has improved 110% in debating since the primaries
9/26/08 09:48 PM Newsbyte McCain is actually better, too
9/26/08 09:48 PM traip-gagnon hi kawlmsley
9/26/08 09:48 PM traip-gagnon he is...but he has always been solid....obama was horrid, painful at times :)
9/26/08 09:49 PM traip-gagnon kwalmsley....how long have you been watching the debate, what do you think so far?
9/26/08 09:49 PM Newsbyte True, O. is moving more quickly and plainly
9/26/08 09:50 PM traip-gagnon nice move by lehrer with the new question
9/26/08 09:52 PM traip-gagnon i'd love to hear a question about genocide/Darfur/Human Rights violations at some point and time
9/26/08 09:52 PM Newsbyte Feelings about Pakistan?
9/26/08 09:54 PM Newsbyte McCain is using his experience well here.
9/26/08 09:54 PM traip-gagnon feelings?
9/26/08 09:55 PM Newsbyte Do we put Pakistan high on the list?
9/26/08 09:55 PM traip-gagnon yes he is....and he should
9/26/08 09:55 PM Newsbyte Is it related to your genocide/human rights focus?
9/26/08 09:56 PM Newsbyte songs about bombing iran... tru dat
9/26/08 09:56 PM traip-gagnon oh...we talk about it...but we focus more on specific genocides than war...we always spend some time debating pakistan/china/Hamas/etc.
9/26/08 09:57 PM traip-gagnon again...im interested to see what people think about mccain attacking oabam's "understanding"
9/26/08 09:58 PM traip-gagnon 1983 he started in congress...before I was born....just a heads up :)
9/26/08 09:58 PM Newsbyte I see it as mostly posturing b/c it's hard to refute that in this setting
9/26/08 09:58 PM traip-gagnon wow...genocide in bosnia and kosovo....but he did not support Rwanda
9/26/08 09:59 PM traip-gagnon nor does he support going into Darfur....but he did want to stop "genocide" in bosnia and kosovo, interesting
9/26/08 09:59 PM Newsbyte I haven't understood that difference, either
9/26/08 09:59 PM traip-gagnon first human touch comment of the night...bracelet
9/26/08 10:00 PM traip-gagnon and mother at the airport
9/26/08 10:00 PM traip-gagnon i've got a bracelet too....oh god
9/26/08 10:01 PM Newsbyte He did knock that red CNN line down
9/26/08 10:01 PM traip-gagnon my students hate when politicians use individual experiences of people they have met for political purposes
9/26/08 10:02 PM traip-gagnon it was a good line...was just thinking of my students
9/26/08 10:02 PM traip-gagnon its interesting...mccain is taking the same tactic bush did when saying ive gone all these places and listed all the places he has gone
9/26/08 10:02 PM traip-gagnon usually goes over well
9/26/08 10:03 PM Newsbyte I think it's important, but it will backfire when it come up with Palin
9/26/08 10:04 PM traip-gagnon can't allow second holocaust? Rwanda....Darfur....
9/26/08 10:04 PM traip-gagnon ahhhhhhhhh
9/26/08 10:04 PM traip-gagnon sorry, i'm better now
9/26/08 10:08 PM traip-gagnon obama keeps outlining "major differences" will be interesting to see how that plays out
9/26/08 10:08 PM Smitty whoa!
9/26/08 10:08 PM Newsbyte I agree that talks have to be increased
9/26/08 10:09 PM Newsbyte I disagree with McCain on this totally
9/26/08 10:13 PM traip-gagnon interesting back and forth.....no reaction from the audience reaction
9/26/08 10:14 PM Newsbyte sitting at a conference w someone means you are concerned with their views, not legitimising them, what do you all think? An I as naive as Obama?
9/26/08 10:17 PM traip-gagnon i agree with obama....but it also could turn into a slippery sloap...but discussion, in my opinions, are always better than non-discussion and straight to war
9/26/08 10:17 PM traip-gagnon with that being said, you don't sit down with someone after they have attacked...for instance, if Iran were to attack another country, im not sure if discussions work at that point
9/26/08 10:20 PM Newsbyte like Russia and Georgia
9/26/08 10:21 PM traip-gagnon right...but what would work best, force/trade restrictions/talking....all of those need to weighed
9/26/08 10:21 PM traip-gagnon again....with the names....experience points?
9/26/08 10:21 PM Mrs C McCain is very knowledgeable about this - but at the risk of offending my ranks - history doesn't always repeat itself - KGB is a little dramatic to me
9/26/08 10:23 PM Newsbyte I don't think Obama can make much of a point here.
9/26/08 10:23 PM Newsbyte Peacekeeping forces from us in April.... doesn't seem significant
9/26/08 10:23 PM traip-gagnon he's from that era though...KGB is dramatic, and im not sure everyone watching knows what that is (our sudents, 18-25 year olds, etc.)...
9/26/08 10:25 PM Mrs C true - but it speaks to the division between those who favor experience and those who favor change. Bringing up the is McCain saying that another cold war is imminent?
9/26/08 10:25 PM Newsbyte And russia is so still mired in that level of corruption
9/26/08 10:26 PM Newsbyte Very KGB-like government, with a different label
9/26/08 10:27 PM Mrs C But point being, the Cold War was a period where faulty decisions were made in the name of a percieved threat.
9/26/08 10:27 PM traip-gagnon 9-11....at what point does 9-11 become a historical event (similar to Pearl Harbor) rather than soemthing we constantly talk about/bring up/remember?
9/26/08 10:28 PM Newsbyte Hmmm, like post-9/11...
9/26/08 10:28 PM Mrs C My students were in kindergarten when 9-11 happened
9/26/08 10:29 PM traip-gagnon right...there was a big push in Maine to do another remember day activity/event....and I made the mistake of bringing about the comparison to Pearl Harbor and had some VERY angry parents
9/26/08 10:30 PM Newsbyte We do need more respect - it's huge point to make here
9/26/08 10:30 PM thebrokenbox am I too late to the party?
9/26/08 10:30 PM Newsbyte No way
9/26/08 10:31 PM Newsbyte Are you watching the debate? What channel?
9/26/08 10:31 PM traip-gagnon hey brokenbox...glad to see you could join the party
9/26/08 10:31 PM traip-gagnon horray for one of my students showing up
9/26/08 10:32 PM traip-gagnon brokenbox...i'll try to keep my liberal propaganda to a minimum (inside joke...to an extent...ha ha).
9/26/08 10:32 PM thebrokenbox haha, just got home from work so I read my email and saw yours.
9/26/08 10:32 PM traip-gagnon so ya....brokenbox....give us thoughts, feelings, especially as a McCain supporter
9/26/08 10:33 PM thebrokenbox haha good, no liberal propoganda allowed.
9/26/08 10:33 PM traip-gagnon you should go back and read all the stuff we have chatted about...some good thoughts/comments we'll be talking about in class :)
9/26/08 10:33 PM thebrokenbox I dont know, havent really seen much of the debate yet.
9/26/08 10:33 PM Newsbyte WE're talking about the perception of the US
9/26/08 10:33 PM Newsbyte in the world - how to change it?
9/26/08 10:34 PM traip-gagnon it's been a really good debate....and I do mean debate...lehrer has let the run with it, it's been good
9/26/08 10:34 PM Lauren Sandy I am watching this debate and am frustrated by the entire structure. What ever happened to point-counterpoint-rebuttal. I doubt the fence sitters have suddenly picked sides after this debate
9/26/08 10:34 PM traip-gagnon looks like it's going to get personal at the end
9/26/08 10:35 PM thebrokenbox one thing i've noticed so far is that McCain is pointing out how he was against a lot of the things that the Bush administration has done, kind of helps show that it wont be "more of the same"
9/26/08 10:35 PM Newsbyte Hi Lauren!! I actually like this better and have been more engaged than 4 years ago
9/26/08 10:35 PM Mrs C Hi Lauren!
9/26/08 10:35 PM traip-gagnon this is more of a free-form style....lehrere has let them run with it a bit
9/26/08 10:36 PM Newsbyte Brokenbox - McCain has been connecting Obama to Bush. Pretty good job so far
9/26/08 10:36 PM traip-gagnon brokenbox...should be some really good clips online...CNN (and I think fox) has a running transcript and running video clips they have been posting throughout the debate
9/26/08 10:37 PM thebrokenbox I love this "veteran" card McCain just whipped out.
9/26/08 10:37 PM traip-gagnon also use websites like factcheck.org to get the "inside scoop" of the accusations/facts they have been using
9/26/08 10:37 PM Newsbyte IMcCain got a big score with that finish!!
9/26/08 10:37 PM traip-gagnon it was a strong close for both of them
9/26/08 10:37 PM traip-gagnon McCain deffinetly became stronger as the debate went on....when he had more opportunity to use his expereince with foreign leaders
9/26/08 10:38 PM Newsbyte Lauren - more thoughts about the format?
9/26/08 10:38 PM Smitty ok, buenos noches
9/26/08 10:38 PM Newsbyte Thanks for coming along, smitty :)
9/26/08 10:39 PM Mrs C good night smitty?
9/26/08 10:39 PM traip-gagnon overall thoughts? I was telling my class that McCain should "win" but Obama just needed to not fall behind/look overmatched to maintain the lead in those swing state polls
9/26/08 10:40 PM Mrs C To me, Obama was stronger in the beginning and McCain was stronger in the end
9/26/08 10:40 PM traip-gagnon which was domestic/economic issues at the beginning....foreign policy at the end
9/26/08 10:40 PM traip-gagnon they were both very assertive on their answers...regardless of where they stood
9/26/08 10:41 PM Newsbyte I think McCain "won" but I had lowere expectations for him. Obama held his own.
9/26/08 10:41 PM Newsbyte Yes - assertive, I agree
9/26/08 10:41 PM thebrokenbox if it was economic, I don't see how either of them could have been better. like you said mr gagnon that neither of them really have plans yet.
9/26/08 10:42 PM Mrs C CNN is saying that Obama should have tied the questions back to the economy - I am glad he didn't keep trying to bring that up
9/26/08 10:42 PM thebrokenbox I guess I need to cvhck out the beginning first.
9/26/08 10:42 PM Lauren Sandy the post debate discussion is probably more illuminating than the debate and I think many of the comments (on NBC) provide a good critical analysis of the debate
9/26/08 10:42 PM traip-gagnon ya...Obama needed to hold his own with foreign policy, show he had knowledge and he was ready. It does raise the confidence level for people with Obama
9/26/08 10:43 PM traip-gagnon brokenbox...ya...try to get the clips online
9/26/08 10:43 PM traip-gagnon but also watch the re-caps....Lauren makes a great point that this is very revealing
9/26/08 10:43 PM Lauren Sandy I love this forum because i find we have as a society lost our civility when debating politics and it is healthy and essential to talk to people with varying opinions.
9/26/08 10:44 PM Lauren Sandy we can't seem to talk to one another without it getting personal and some discussion between different political groups don't happen as they should.
9/26/08 10:44 PM traip-gagnon ya....hear hear for the forum Meg & Ann
9/26/08 10:44 PM Newsbyte Thanks to YOU!!
9/26/08 10:45 PM Newsbyte Ideas for future chat topics are welcome.
9/26/08 10:46 PM traip-gagnon ya, it's fast....you have to get use to the refresh button....but I think this will get a lot of use...esepcially in the upcoming debates, I would expect more of my media&politics students to show up
9/26/08 10:46 PM traip-gagnon and election night
9/26/08 10:46 PM thebrokenbox yeh I know right. haha.
9/26/08 10:46 PM traip-gagnon i think even using this chat for discussions between classes over a specific news article or event would be wonderful as well
9/26/08 10:46 PM Newsbyte Yes! Josh, thanks for testing at the beta site, it helped me decide to try something different - too many bugs in that one
9/26/08 10:47 PM traip-gagnon next up - Biden/Palin
9/26/08 10:47 PM Newsbyte Yes- I can't wait for the VP debates
9/26/08 10:47 PM traip-gagnon brokenbox, i'll be expecting a lot from you to promote this in class :)
9/26/08 10:47 PM CzarNickolas yeah
9/26/08 10:47 PM traip-gagnon we we're hoping for Republic4Life to show up :)
9/26/08 10:48 PM traip-gagnon Czar when did you show?
9/26/08 10:48 PM thebrokenbox haha he needs to be here, then it will be a party.
9/26/08 10:48 PM traip-gagnon my class is slowly trickling in....at the end of the debates :)
9/26/08 10:48 PM CzarNickolas i just got the email. sorry.
9/26/08 10:48 PM thebrokenbox I jus got cakemix in here.
9/26/08 10:48 PM traip-gagnon sorry? for what? :)
9/26/08 10:48 PM traip-gagnon you watch the debate, thoughts?
9/26/08 10:49 PM CzarNickolas soo... how did this discussion go? haha
9/26/08 10:50 PM traip-gagnon mostly us teachers bantering back and forth....go to the bottom and click older messages...a lot of good stuff we went back and forth on
9/26/08 10:50 PM Newsbyte Not all shows up - but I'll se if I can send you a transcript, Mr. Gagnon
9/26/08 10:51 PM Mrs C Goodnight to all - thanks!
9/26/08 10:51 PM traip-gagnon oh really...too bad (suggestion) :) I think posting the transcript somehow as a script to talk about/discuss as an exchange might be a good idea?
9/26/08 10:51 PM traip-gagnon thats Mrs. C
9/26/08 10:52 PM traip-gagnon thanks
9/26/08 10:52 PM traip-gagnon rather
9/26/08 10:52 PM CzarNickolas i only got to see a little bit of the debates. what i saw was pretty good though. some of the topics got pretty heated with the candidates fighting over what they meant by what they said haha.
9/26/08 10:52 PM Newsbyte Yes - Posting the transcript is an idea
9/26/08 10:53 PM traip-gagnon was there anything in particular that stood out for you? Highs/Lows of what you saw? Did McCain/Obama do anything to help/hurt their campaign?
9/26/08 10:53 PM traip-gagnon but ya, even getting a copy of it for use in my class would be great....there must be a way to do that
9/26/08 10:54 PM traip-gagnon CNN is going to do a factcheck after the next commercial break apparently
9/26/08 10:54 PM traip-gagnon might be interesting to see
9/26/08 10:54 PM Newsbyte CBS is doing a decent job right now, too
9/26/08 10:55 PM traip-gagnon hey....when you click older messages, you can scroll back using the previous button to see every entry since you joined the chat
9/26/08 10:55 PM traip-gagnon FYI
9/26/08 10:55 PM traip-gagnon ha ha :)
9/26/08 10:55 PM CzarNickolas I think that Obama made some kind of broad statements that might have hurt his campaign. McCain, as much as i hate to admit, hit some of the fioreign policy questions out of the park.
9/26/08 10:56 PM CzarNickolas And he called Obama on not visiting Petrayus when he was in Iraq.
9/26/08 10:56 PM traip-gagnon he did....and you knew he was supposed to do that....did you see the early economic/domestic stuff? We were talking how Obama looked much stronger than McCain earlier in the debate
9/26/08 10:56 PM CzarNickolas Which i think was smart on McCain's part in defending his "Foreign Policy Guru" appeal.
9/26/08 10:57 PM traip-gagnon right, Bush did the same thing vs. Gore in the 2000 debates (and to an extent against Kerry in 2004)
9/26/08 10:57 PM CzarNickolas I failed to see much of that due to my massive amounts of english homework that had to be done haha.
9/26/08 10:58 PM thebrokenbox haha plus the ap work.
9/26/08 10:58 PM traip-gagnon starting interviews in Spin ally (we talked about this in class...check it out)
9/26/08 10:59 PM Lauren Sandy NBC is airing the "Truth Squad" to pick apart what each candidate claimed in the debate. It is really enlightening.
9/26/08 10:59 PM CzarNickolas But I can see where Obama would do that. Right now, he would have to mess up pretty bad to not do well with economics. America's pretty upset with Republican economics right about now.
9/26/08 10:59 PM traip-gagnon skip english homework for this (ha ha...don't tell Singer) :)
9/26/08 10:59 PM traip-gagnon good point Czar
9/26/08 10:59 PM traip-gagnon one of the big thigns we discussed was McCain's idea to freeze spending....lots of discussion on that
9/26/08 11:00 PM CzarNickolas Maybe I'll kick my brother off the Xbox to see if I can catch some Spin Alley.
9/26/08 11:00 PM traip-gagnon you should....its fascinating....essentially attack dogs for each campaign (you can also watch online...CNN and Fox have live online feeds)
9/26/08 11:01 PM traip-gagnon Biden on CNN right now
9/26/08 11:02 PM CzarNickolas yeah i can see where there would be some big discussion over that. it would contradict his views on the war IMO, though. I really wish I saw more and got your email earlier, though gagnon haha.
9/26/08 11:03 PM traip-gagnon its ok....we still have 3 more debates
9/26/08 11:03 PM CzarNickolas ooh i love love online feeds. and i think a transcript is definitely a must have.
9/26/08 11:03 PM traip-gagnon and like i said...VP next Thursday....and my scary scary dreams im having about it ha ha
9/26/08 11:04 PM CzarNickolas hahaha... "SHUT IT, WOMAN"
9/26/08 11:04 PM Newsbyte Oh - we'll for sure be here hosting this again!
9/26/08 11:04 PM traip-gagnon ok...well 11:00 is way past my bedtime, CakeMix and Jenkins, thanks for showing up....i'll see you in class, and hopefully you can chat up this feature to the clas
9/26/08 11:05 PM CzarNickolas I have heard things this week relating to his sometimes less than selective words, though. The VP debate could be a pretty big decider here.
9/26/08 11:05 PM Newsbyte Yeah - what he said. Thank you all for stopping by and we'll do this again..
9/26/08 11:05 PM traip-gagnon ya...i had dreams that Biden just started shouting at Palin....oi
9/26/08 11:05 PM CzarNickolas ok night
9/26/08 11:05 PM traip-gagnon ok, thanks for this....love the chat, love the site (you already knew that though)....till Thursday
9/26/08 11:05 PM thebrokenbox hmm I just did a thing on Myspace about the candidates and I agree with mcCain 7 out of 11 issues and 5 for obama, I find that interesting.
9/26/08 11:06 PM CzarNickolas that is interesting
9/26/08 11:07 PM thebrokenbox night g money
9/26/08 11:08 PM thebrokenbox and night to the rest of you. :0
9/26/08 11:08 PM thebrokenbox :)
9/26/08 11:08 PM Newsbyte Bye!
9/26/08 11:08 PM CzarNickolas peace out
